Desperate Thrust

Auxic

Well-known member
Looking for feedback or votes for this ability. I don't even use it to be honest and its not even on my hot bar. It would be nice to see desperate thrust receive an upgrade. The damage is terrible, and the 3 procs are close to nothing. This ability can be revived, but making a few adjustments to it.

Increase the Damage to Desperate Thrust by up to 750%. At expert level with 5 AAs put into the ability effectiveness it barely makes 2T in damage, with raid buffs I believe it may have reached 3-4T. The ability shares no real benefit to cast when there are other things to cast and repop before getting a chance to think about this.

Its only a Desperate thrust when I have no other abilities to cast. Lets take a look at the chart, assuming at Expert level with 10220 resolve, including the 5 AA points in the brig tree for effectiveness you can see this ability has out grown over by todays content. It is requested to increase the damage by 700% for this ability. The damage output will be increase to an average of roughly 15-20T based on skill level.

Current Expert600%700%750%
LowHighLowHighLowHighLowHigh
Damage in Trillions1.8792.32911.27413.97413.15316.30314.09317.468
Average Hit2.104T12.624T14.728T15.780T

The 3 addition modifications added to desperate thrust are pretty much worthless for todays content. A combat mitigation reduction of 63.2 is meaningless, and not sure what effect 90/59 defense attributes do when my character is sitting at 10600 defense. It is requested to change out these attributes, and increase the buff by 750% of the current values. Judging on the content, I would suggest maybe replacing with Crit Bonus / Overcap, and maybe DPS. The ability has a duration for approx 33 seconds which is fair. Below is something how it should look like and the numbers are close to being reasonable. I would vote for changing out the old procs and replace them with DPS, CB, and CBOC to that caster or group, also increase current values by 750%.

Skill Attributes (Expert)
OriginalNewCurrent Expert250%500%750%1000%
Combat MitDPS63.2158.0316.0474.0632.0
Defense TargetCB Overcap90.9227.3454.5681.8909.0
Defense CasterCrit Bonus59.1147.8295.5443.3591.0

Also keep in mind at ancient/celestial these value are a bit higher.
 
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Lordowitch

New member
There are several spells which are basicly not even worth to touch now since there is ready up. Brig was always a decent dps class but now its so much limited to perfect reset and all on this new Looooong Cast Top Spells.

Its Mostly like to decide do u want to do dps ? or do u want to keep all debuffs up ?
And Having Backstab on same Timer with Vital takes away also many combos u can do.

This Toon is not Raiding so cant compare to top end Geared.
 

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Auxic

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This is what Desperate Thrust looks like right now. As the chart states is to swap out for buffs on the same timer and increase damage. The current buffs do basically nothing to todays mobs.
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Lordowitch

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Yes i still use it or have it on Hotbar but its one close to get just thrown awa to make space, only thing is it has the HO cloak setting which is his benefit sometimes.
 

Auxic

Well-known member
Yes i still use it or have it on Hotbar but its one close to get just thrown awa to make space, only thing is it has the HO cloak setting which is his benefit sometimes.
Correct, its only on my hotbar for HOs as well. I never use it the damage is too low and effect serves no purpose.

If it provided something like the above. 700% damage and 750% effect increases and the benefits. It would be worth casting every 33s.

This could be a group effect which gives Brigand better raid opportunities in dps groups.
 

Cipher

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That would make this CA actually useful making it a temperary group buff with the above. I cant remember the last time I casted this for any purpose.
 
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Auxic

Well-known member
This post is just solidify a vote for the following on Desperate Thrust combat art.

1. A Damage increase of 700%
2. Replace combat mitigation reduction proc with a DPS stat that is a group buff. Also increase stat by 750% of current value.
3. Replace defense of target reduction proc with crit bonus overcap that is a group buff. Also increase stat by 750% of current value.
4. Replace defense of caster reduction proc with crit bonus that is a group buff. Also increase stat by 750% of current value.
5. Keep duration of 33.6 seconds.

At Expert level the ability is expected to look something like this:
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Desperate Thrust IX (Expert)

Target: Enemy
Duration: 33.6 seconds

Effects:
Inflict 13.153T - 16.303T melee damage on target.
Increase DPS of group members (AE) by 474.
Increase Crit Bonus Overcap of group members (AE) by 681.8
Increase Crit Bonus of group members (AE) by 443.3
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or

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Desperate Thrust IX (Expert)

Target: Enemy
Duration: 33.6 seconds


Effects:
Inflict 13.153T - 16.303T melee damage on target.
Applies Desperate Thrust. Lasts for 33.6 seconds.
- Increase DPS of group members (AE) by 474.
- Increase Crit Bonus Overcap of group members (AE) by 681.8
- Increase Crit Bonus of group members (AE) by 443.3
============================================

This will increase a purpose to use this ability for damage, and also the need to cast it every duration of its cycle to keep buffs rolling for raids/groups/self.
 
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badname912

Active member
I think we are "desperate" for an increase in these ability damages. (See what I did there?). I feel all these requests for increase were simply ignored in favor of TG becoming "OP"
 
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