Not A Bug Gentok's Contained Rage not dropping.

Kasbah

Active member
This has been an ongoing issue for over the last month or so.
Our group regularly farms contested for the spawn items to kill Gentok, we've tried troubleshooting this issue ourselves to see if there was a pattern to it or if it was just a fluke issue. We've tried one person running the h2 adorn, two or three people running one, having no one wear one and having everyone wear the H2 adorn. The Gentok's Contained Rage item is just not dropping. I'm not talking about an hour or less of running the zone here and there either, I'm saying running it as a dedicated group 3-5 times a week anywhere from 4-6 hours each time and having 8-12 kills on the adorn at a time. The Rage is consistently not dropping at all. We're getting an overload of the other two items the "Figurine of the Scourgebringer" and "Gentok's Void Touched Blade" but absolutely 0 Rages and this has become a common issue for almost any group farming the zone on Skyfire server. There are at least 5 other groups that run regularly that I know of and they've all said the same thing with the same time frame. Not sure if this is just a problem on our server or a game wide issue, but I'm reporting on what I know and have tested. Last week in a long 6 hour farm run of the zone we got 4 Blades and 2 Totems but 0 Rages and we killed every single named in there multiple times without zoning out. That's been just about what it is every time for over a month now. It doesn't make much sense given that nothing else of value comes from there, the H2 adorns cost 6500 Scarred Dinar and 45 Drachma a piece, and we're not even getting the items we're going in there after to spawn the mob. 6 people running the H2 adorns for four hours and killing names on repeat through that whole time and not getting the spawn items is wasting four hours of everyone's day, and a total of 39k Scarred Dinar's and 270 Drachma wasted collectively for absolutely no reward. This isn't even taking into account that most of the gear off the contested mob is useless now as well aside from the Ring which also has a next to 0% drop rate. So when you couple the fact that the Rage isn't dropping just to spawn the mob, and the ring isn't dropping when we do kill it. It kinda makes all of us wonder why we're even bothering to continue wasting time and hard to replace currency, especially so much of it. If this could be looked into soon it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
 

Sephris

Well-known member
the Ring which also has a next to 0% drop rate. So when you couple the fact that the Rage isn't dropping just to spawn the mob, and the ring isn't dropping when we do kill it. It kinda makes all of us wonder why we're even bothering to continue wasting time and hard to replace currency, especially so much of it. If this could be looked into soon it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

We have 9 rings, in ballpark 50-60+ kills. Considering the number of hours farming for items you're looking at what, 10-12+ hours per orb for a 20% drop rate? Its absolutely insane.

Orbs need to drop far more readily, or the ring needs to drop from the kill more often if the orb is the be the rare component. Having BOTH be rare is super defeating and just bad engagement.

I'm all for BIS gear being rare, and there are plenty of past items that had 20, 10, 5, and 2% drop rates in the loot table, but those mobs were also always up with a set lockout, ready and waiting to be killed, as opposed to a spawn from items farmed with RNG.
 

Bentenn

Well-known member
Stop spending currency on the adorns. You will have to have some patience to do this, but you can get a stockpile of them and not pay except for the solo one or h1 one, depending on how you want to start.

Buy solo one- Kill all solo named over and over as they will start dropping h1 adorns at certain point. Then use H1 adorn to do same for H2. You can get a stockpile of them.

Or start by buying H1 adorn and running H1 named to get H2 adorn. After I think it's 4 named kill, each box looted will give you an H2 adorn.

Here is the catch, your group has to work together to allow you all to loot boxes to get to adorns and then rinse repeat for whomever you want. I've not bought an H2 adorn in roughly a month now.


The rages exist, are very rare, but exist. I got 2 last night on Maj'dul and I know my other guild I raid with got at least 4 in the past week, would have to go back to confirm, but pretty sure it was 4.

Sux at times, I know as I've farmed this regularly for a few months now. Sometimes we do four hour sessions and sometimes eight hour sessions. Sometimes we walk away with one item and sometimes we walk away with a lot more.
 

Kasbah

Active member
Yeah, I know the H1 adorn trick and we've done that as well, but you're still spending currency on the adorns. I tried the solo adorn one the other day and killed every solo named probably about 4-5x each overnight and never got an H1 adorn just a ton of the Echoes from Beyond, so I wasn't sure that the solo would grant H1 adorns, thanks for confirming that but we do know about the H1 one giving H2 adorns which is what we've been doing, but we were all burning H2 adorns for a bit to see if more of us wearing it would make it more likely to drop, sadly it didn't. We've been farming it religiously since the day it came out, that's the whole reason for posting this. We had relatively decent luck on it, but like I said above, the last month to two months they straight up have not dropped at all. We haven't changed our farming schedule and are still running it the same amount as we were then if not more, the Rage's just genuinely are not dropping anymore. I read the other post about this and am glad you're having luck with it but it's not happening here. It's not just our guild groups having this issue on Skyfire either, we've spoken to multiple other groups here that farm the zone for the spawners regularly as well and have been since a little after it's release and everyone is saying the same thing. Something is wrong with the drop rate on the Rages. When it first came out actually, the Rage was the most common drop we would get to the point that we had a decent pile of them and the Sword was the rarest of the three but it was nowhere near as rare or nonexistent as the Rages seem to be now. Then, we burnt through all of the Rages we had stockpiled across the guild and have not seen one drop since then really. Now we get the Swords nonstop, the Figurines are the second most common, and the Rages just seem to not exist anymore. At least for us that is, again glad you're having luck with it but no one else here is and we're tired of wasting ludicrous amounts of time to get absolutely nothing out of it.
 

Fizzgig

Well-known member
we've tried all kinds of combinations of adorns from one person wearing one to six people wearing multiple so long as someone's wearing one seems like you have a chance doesn't seem like having multiple on a person improves anything
 

Mint

Loot Meddler
Staff member
Developer
This specific item is dropping, however I understand that it is currently very difficult to pursue. There are a number of changes coming with the next Game Update for content in the Spiral of Vuul zone, including the cost of The Kept Record and the drop rates of items including the items needed to spawn the raid encounter.
 

Bentenn

Well-known member
This specific item is dropping, however I understand that it is currently very difficult to pursue. There are a number of changes coming with the next Game Update for content in the Spiral of Vuul zone, including the cost of The Kept Record and the drop rates of items including the items needed to spawn the raid encounter.
nvm, mis-read, hopped up on meds
 
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Bentenn

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we've tried all kinds of combinations of adorns from one person wearing one to six people wearing multiple so long as someone's wearing one seems like you have a chance doesn't seem like having multiple on a person improves anything
I've been sick with the awesome COVID and been moving cross-country so these aren't my numbers, but my third guild just reported yesterday they have 9 rages and 12 blades, but needed figurines lol. I saw you had some success the other day though.
 

Bentenn

Well-known member
We had 4 groups going (in 4 instances) for a couple of hours last night and had zero rages.
I’ll be getting back to it soon. See red has had some luck with them. Vantagez has not and we just used up a few last sets in VIg, so I’ll have to see what I can get again.
 

Fizzgig

Well-known member
This specific item is dropping, however I understand that it is currently very difficult to pursue. There are a number of changes coming with the next Game Update for content in the Spiral of Vuul zone, including the cost of The Kept Record and the drop rates of items including the items needed to spawn the raid encounter.
We appreciate you making changes and sticking your head in to let us know they're coming
 

Kasbah

Active member
This specific item is dropping, however I understand that it is currently very difficult to pursue. There are a number of changes coming with the next Game Update for content in the Spiral of Vuul zone, including the cost of The Kept Record and the drop rates of items including the items needed to spawn the raid encounter.
We appreciate the reply and you looking into it and making some fixes for us. Looking forward to the changes. :)
 
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